1.
Call to Order
Chairman Raymond
Shaw called the meeting to order at
Mr. Shaw stated that he received an email from Peter Guglietta
of 135 Jennie’s Way regarding a quote he made in the Boston Globe. Mr. Shaw stated he will not debate this and
he stands behind his comment.
2. Approval of Minutes
MOTION - Mr.
Sitar made a motion to approve the minutes of
3. Attorney Mark Bobrowski – Town Peer Review Lead
Mr. Sadwick stated that at the request of one of the members
of this committee, Attorney Bobrowski was brought in to handle the peer review
aspect of this proposal. Attorney
Bobrowski has represented the Town of
3A. Discussion of Peer Review Process
Attorney Bobrowski stated that the first issue to be discussed
is the Peer Review Process. Attorney
Bobrowski stated that generally when the application for a project is submitted
the zoning has to be changed. There are
impacts to infrastructure, land swap issues, water and sewer needs that have to
be worked out. An example is the
Mr. Shaw asked if Attorney Bobrowski had a recommendation on this. Attorney Bobrowski stated that he would recommend Judy Barrett because she knows the area and has worked in the Merrimack Valley Planning Commission.
Mr. Sears asked if Attorney Bobrowski has worked with Tischler
Associates. Attorney Bobrowski stated
that he has never worked with them. Mr.
Sears passed out a report from Tischler Associates done for
Mr. Deackoff asked if Ms. Barrett has ever done a financial
analysis study. Attorney Bobrowski
stated yes, she has done that for Belmont and Regional Planning Office. Mr. Deackoff asked if she would have the
resources to hire what she needs. Attorney
Bobrowski replied he believes so. Attorney
Bobrowski stated that the applicant has put $10,000 into an account for the
peer review process. The Town of
Chief Ryan asked how many stages and how long would this peer review take. Attorney Bobrowski stated that it depends on the Town Meeting outcome. There are two ways that this can be done. 1) The applicant knows the property and what exactly is going to be done and in turn submits a complete package at Town Meeting and gets the 2/3 vote needed. 2) The applicant doesn’t have clarity of the project and it’s more a conceptual plan presented at Town Meeting which is the first stage.
Mr. Sears asked if there will be a contract with this board. Attorney Bobrowski stated that he will handle that, it would most likely be with the Board of Selectmen.
Attorney Bobrowski stated that he will check with the Barnstable Town Counsel regarding Tischler Associates and he will report back to Mr. Sadwick.
3B. Discussion of Development Agreement
Process
Attorney Bobrowski stated that the Town of
3C. Discussion of Spot Zoning
Attorney Bobrowski stated that he has review the draft
zoning article dated
Attorney Bobrowski stated that Spot Zoning has never been
deemed more than 20 acres in
Mr. Deackoff asked if the Development Agreement was beyond the scope of this committee. Attorney Bobrowski stated he doesn’t know the scope of this committee but stated that this agreement needs to be negotiated. Mr. Shaw stated that the actual negotiations would be by the Planning Board and Town Manger, but this committee can make recommendations. Mr. Shaw stated that the Planning Board would hold public hearings for this article. Attorney Bobrowski stated that the Development Agreement is typically done with the Board of Selectmen and Town Manager. The best process to start a Development Agreement is to come up with a bullet list of what the Town wants and he will help direct when the items go, whether it is in the zoning article or Development Agreement.
Mr. Sears asked what backs up the Development Agreement. Attorney Bobrowski stated that it is contract law. The Development Agreement is referenced in the Site Plan Special Permit, Bonding, etc and it has criminal penalties. The fees are $300 per day for zoning violations and $1,000 per day for Massachusetts Building Code violations.
Mr. Sadwick stated that next Zoning Bylaw Subcommittee is
meeting on
Attorney Bobrowski stated that the Town needs to come up with goals and objectives to be put in the zoning article or the Development Agreement.
William Lambert of
Mr. Deackoff asked if retail is allowed in a Heavy Industrial zone. Mr. Sadwick replied no.
Robert Kelley of
Attorney Bobrowski stated that the Comprehensive Plan Requirement
is not a requirement in
Mr. Kelley stated so this parcel will not be deemed spot
zoning. Attorney Bobrowski stated he
didn’t say that, but it is unlikely based on the factors. Mr. Kelley asked if it is unusual to work
with a proponent and deliver the legality of a Development Agreement and zoning
change. Attorney Bobrowski stated it is
not unusual. It is responsible for a
community to work with an applicant and put money in an escrow account to hire
consultants and get the things that the Town wants. The normal scope of projects is that the
applicant put money in an escrow account and the Town hires consultants and
pays them through this account. Mr. Kelley
asked if the Planning Board will do another peer review. Attorney Bobrowski state that two peer
reviews will be done. This is a
preliminary one but after zoning the Planning Board will have a detailed
review. Mr. Kelley stated that if he
came up with a zoning article would it be reviewed by Attorney Bobrowski. Attorney Bobrowski stated that it would go
before the Zoning Bylaw Committee or this committee and either committee would
recommend it or parts of it to him. Mr. Kelley
asked if you would work for the applicant.
Attorney Bobrowski stated that he works for the Town of
Geraldine Murphy of
Attorney Bobrowski stated that he has looked at the draft zoning article and has ideas on how to change this. This committee should look at Section 8520, which deals with district dimensional requirements.
MOTION - Mr. Deackoff made a motion that Attorney Bobrowski starts the peer review process and that he review the escrow account that has been setup with the Town Manager and that it is funded with enough money to include but not limited to a fiscal impact analysis report and regional impact report and should include Ms. Barrett, Mr. Serwatka, Mr. Hajec, Mr. Manual, and if required Tischler and Associates. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sears and unanimously voted 6-0.
Chief Ryan stated that there may be duplication with Ms. Barrett and Tischler and Associates. If Ms. Barrett feels that she is comfortable with doing the fiscal impact analysis, then it should be fine. Attorney Bobrowski is capable of determining which consultants are needed.
Attorney Bobrowski stated that he will contact the consultants this week, but he’s not sure what the consultants can do with what has been given thus far. For example, the traffic will be based on ITE models based on the proposed uses. Mr. Shaw stated that a lot of the uses will go away.
Mr. Deackoff stated that there are other parcels in other
towns that have not been addressed, but he could make estimates on full build
out of zoning and interchange. Attorney
Bobrowski stated that they would use the maximum approach, but they are
estimates for Mr. Hajec and Mr. Serwatka.
4. Review of Draft Zoning Article
Attorney Bobrowski stated that there are some comments regarding the zoning article. On page 10, everything except the mix of uses is procedural. In Sections 8520 and 8530, it is good that it states community preferences. The applicant should provide a model of the building. Section 8522 talks about lot coverage. There is also a section regarding parking design. Other local malls should be looked at. Attorney Bobrowski stated that Mr. Serwatka will determine functionality, not how it looks.
Mr. Deackoff stated that he is concerned about the out buildings. The consensus is that there should be no other buildings and there should be at least 600 feet of buffer to the nearest to residents. In Section 8553 it states a 50’ buffer, but 600’ buffer was discussed and should be inserted. Mr. Deackoff stated that the mall should be limited to two floors. Attorney Bobrowski stated that those are examples of performance standards that he’s looking for.
Mr. Sadwick stated that this came up in the Zoning Bylaw Subcommittee meeting. It was asked who was drafting the zoning article. It was decided that the applicant would make the changes and it made sense for the Town to take control of this now through Attorney Bobrowski.
Attorney Bobrowski stated that this should work through the Planning Board for zoning and this committee should make real recommendations.
Mr. Deackoff stated that the zoning needs to be locked down. There is a problem with all the uses by right. Attorney Bobrowski stated that you need at least one use by right. After Town Meeting, it’s the Town’s right to retain power to say no. The Site Plan Special Permit gives the Town the right to say no. If a Site Plan Review is done, then it takes away the Town’s ability to say no.
Geraldine Murphy of
Mr. Deackoff stated that 750,000 GLA is what the applicant has proposed and should be locked in. If expansion is needed than it should go to Town Meeting.
MOTION - Mr. Deackoff made a motion that the Mills project is limited to 750,000 SF of Gross Leasable Area and is subjected to further review. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sears and unanimously voted 6-0.
Maria Fishlin of 120 Jennie’s Way – Ms. Fishlin asked if the Development Agreement takes place prior to Town Meeting or after. Ms. Fishlin stated that it should be done prior to Town Meeting. Attorney Bobrowski stated that the Board of Selectmen usually signs it prior to Town Meeting so voters can see what they are voting on.
MOTION - Mr. Deackoff made a motion to require the Development Agreement is finalized and approved prior to Town Meeting to be available to the public. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sears and unanimously voted 6-0.
Bob Kelley of
MOTION - Mr.
Deackoff made a motion to instruct Mr. Hajec to look at the regional impact as
a whole with proposals in development in
Mr. Kelley asked if the 750,000 SF of GLA was per parcel or for the entire site. Mr. Deackoff stated that is what the under lying district contains. The zoning article is limited to 750,000 SF of GLA. Mr. Shaw stated that he has a problem with that. Mr. Shaw stated that he thought Mr. Deackoff’s motion on GLA was only this area.
MOTION - Chief Ryan made a motion to reconsider the motion made by Mr. Deackoff regarding the 750,000 SF of GLA. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sitar and unanimously voted 6-0.
MOTION - Mr. Sitar made a motion that the project be limited to 750,000 SF of GLA of the applicants land on the west side of Rt. 93 and remove the Kelley parcel from this zoning article. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sears and unanimously voted 6-0.
Attorney Richard
O’Neill – Attorney O’Neill stated that the Kelley parcel is on the East
side of Rt. 93 and it has 13 acres.
There are two parcels in
Mr. Sadwick stated that taking the Kelley property out of
the zoning article, it would make it easier to draft the Development Agreement
if it just dealt with the Town of
Attorney O’Neill stated that the Master Plan Committee had several discussions on this area and their subcommittee looked at what Mills was proposing and the Kelley property. The Kelley property is already zoned Heavy Industrial. Mr. Shaw asked if a hotel could go on a property zoned Heavy Industrial. Mr. Sadwick stated he believes so. This is the case for the hotels on Rt. 133. Mr. Shaw stated that the Zoning Bylaw was checked and hotels are allowed in the Heavy Industrial zone.
Mr. Deackoff stated that if the Kelley property is already zoned Heavy Industrial, then they can do what they want with it. The Master Plan has said this area should be research and development. Attorney O’Neill stated that the Master Plan Subcommittee has presented something different.
Attorney Bobrowski stated that there is a lack of
communication between the Zoning Bylaw Subcommittee and this committee and this
needs to be changed. Attorney Bobrowski
stated that Attorney O’Neill gave him a new draft zoning article dated
Mr. Shaw stated that Mr. Sears presented a Board of
Selectmen memo dated
MOTION - Chief Ryan made a motion to adopt the recommendation of Attorney Bobrowski and appoint a subcommittee to meet with the Zoning Bylaw Subcommittee to work on the proposed zoning article. The appointment will be left to the call of the chair. The motion was seconded by Mr. Sears and unanimously voted 6-0.
Attorney Bobrowski asked how many were on this committee. Mr. Shaw stated that currently there are 7, but at the next Board of Selectmen’s meeting it could go to 9.
Mr. Shaw stated that he is appointing Mr. Deackoff, Mr. Sears and Mr. Sitar as members to this subcommittee and that he will serve as an exofficio member.
Attorney Bobrowski stated that he will contact Mr. Sadwick to setup a time for the first meeting.
Mr. Sadwick stated that the Land Use Committee was created to look at two areas of town. The early Master Plan draft designated this area as Office/Research but the Land Use Committee chose to look at it more intensely. This committee wrapped up the end of November. The recommendation was if the access ramp was not constructed the best use would be open space with residential development. If the access ramp was constructed there were 3 uses that were voted on by priority. The first was Office/Research, the seconded was Resort/Conference Center and the third was retail.
Mr. Deackoff stated that he was not at the vote, but the Land Use Committee had previously based there vote on first most desirable, second was neutral and third was least desirable. Mr. Sadwick stated that is not what he believes the vote was and the minutes do not reflect that. Mr. Shaw asked for a copy of the minutes.
Bob Kelley of
Bill Lambert of
5. Traffic Update
James DeAngelo and David Wahr appeared for a traffic update.
Mr. Deackoff asked if Mr. Wahr received a copy of the Corridor Report. Mr. Wahr stated that he has the Executive Summary and Mr. Sadwick should have a copy also.
Mr. DeAngelo stated that last time they were here they were
asked to prepare a traffic memorandum report for 750,000 SF of GLA. This is based on a conceptual design and is
not intended to replace a detailed report.
They talked about the process of the 5th option of the ring
road without connecting the
Mr. Sears stated that the 5th Alternative is not
talked about in the Executive Summary.
Mr. DeAngelo stated that is correct, but three of the alternatives are
similar with full access. Mr. Sears
asked what does this do for
Mr. Sears asked if any of the other abutters want this 5th Alternative. Mr. DeAngelo stated that they are working hard to get their support. Mr. Sears asked if the 5th Alternative was more expensive. Mr. DeAngelo replied yes. It is estimated at $35 Million where the MVPC alternatives cost between $16-$22 Million. The difference is that this has flexibility to have other people deliver the components of this. The four other alternatives are conceptual, so costs are not real. Our costs are real numbers. Mr. Wahr added that the 5th Alternative also included main line improvements for Rt. 93.
Mr. Shaw stated that after MVPC makes their recommendations,
the final decision rests with
Bob Kelley of
Mr. Deackoff asked if you could get to the mall from
Mr. Kelley asked how much Mills is going to pay. Mr. Wahr replied he didn’t know, but
Mr. Sadwick stated that at the last meeting we talked about
a different alternative. Mr. Sadwick
stated that he was wrong when he said the trumpet design was not accepted by
Mass or Federal Highways. He is
retracting his statement. The slip ramp
was denied.
6. Reports
Mr. Shaw stated that there no reports.
7. Residents
Maria Fishlin of 120 Jennie’s Way – Ms. Fishlin asked if the subcommittee meetings would be open meetings. Mr. Shaw replied yes, they will be posted at Town Hall and website but it will not be recorded.
Patrick Grecco of
Mr. Shaw stated that he spoke with Dr. McGrath about the
following possibilities, 360 MFD units, 60 Single Family units, 720 40B units. Dr. McGrath stated that she considered 2
children per household. Further, 60
children would have an impact to the K-4 grades at the
Mr. Grecco stated that on Jennie’s Way there is 1 child in Kindergarten and 2 in 1st grade.
Mr. Deackoff stated that in the latest report from CHAPA dated February 2003, they indicated the average is .5 children per home. That would be 30 children for a Single Family housing development. Mr. Deackoff stated that Dr. McGrath should look at the website.
Mr. Grecco stated that even though it’s been stated that property taxes would go down, car insurance would go up. Mr. Shaw stated that it has never been stated that the tax rate would go down.
Bob Kelley of
Mr. Shaw stated that there is no new business.
Mr. Shaw stated that he will leave this draft outline report
on the table.
Mr. Shaw stated that the next meeting will be on
MOTION - Mr.
Deackoff made a motion to adjourn at
Approved:
Michael Sitar, Clerk